My piece Stark Truth About the Aryans is doing well. Pretty good feedback. Part 2 will be out in the next day or so.
Genetic ancestry changes in Stone to Bronze Age transition in the East European plain.
Update: part 2 is out.
My piece Stark Truth About the Aryans is doing well. Pretty good feedback. Part 2 will be out in the next day or so.
Genetic ancestry changes in Stone to Bronze Age transition in the East European plain.
Update: part 2 is out.
The fourth arrow is missing. It may come in part#2.
JKNH – Gang of Four.
…fifth arrow…
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/pakistan-reactivating-old-terror-groups-intel-inputs-1761544-2021-01-22
Halal haleem owaisi
Anybody here listen to Joe Rogan’s new podcast episode (#1599) with Tulsi Gabbard? Looks like Tulsi is now in the IDW (Intellectual Dark Web) camp from some of the things she’s saying.
(Google) What is the meaning of the name Rogan?
Rogan as a boy’s name is of Irish and Gaelic origin, and the meaning of Rogan is “red-headed”.
(Google) Rogan Josh is an aromatic mutton dish of Persian origin. Rogan (روغن) means “oil” in Persian, while Josh (جوش) means “heat, hot, boiling, or passionate”. Rogan Josh thus means cooked in oil at intense heat.
>>>>> Pundits from the part#1 thread, who works today, can notice R&G in previous names!!!!
tulsi has always been way more conservative privately. in hawaii you gotta run as a dem.
One of the most undertalked achievements of India is that outstanding work on climate change. The 2021 Climate Performance Index shows India to be leading most richer countries by a landslide. What’s needed now is more attention to water.
The farmer agitation is about MSP, but a much more important question is collapsing water tables and desertification in north-west India in particular but water is a pressing concern in the Deccan as well. Yet India’s strong position as a climate change leader should make us hopeful that it can solve the water challenge as well. No time to lose.
The Purbi Arya Kisan log were of the same stock as the Sindhu Saraswati Sabhyata log who were but slightly enriched with Dakshin Purvaj log. This kind of starts making low-key sense with Talageri’s timelines. If only the Sindhu Saraswati Sabhyata log were called as Madhyama Arya, then it would make complete sense.
Context – Talageri’s theory is that the Old books of the Rgveda are anterior to 3000 BC and the Eastern Iranians were originally part of the broad civilisational area in the Indus River system.
Starting from the New Books of the Rgveda, one can see typical Iranian names (Cayamana, Cavasa etc) embroiled in war stanzas. Talageri postulates that the Eastern Iranians have begun to form a new religious doctrine (proto-Zoroastrianism) and are straying away from the ways of the Arya. They are defeated and pushed out of the Indus zone into Eastern Iran.
Talageri sees no Dravidian substrate in the Old books of the Rgveda, but there are several loanwords in the New books. So there must be a historical interregnum between the composers of the Old books and New books. Talageri holds Dravidian influence to be in the Mature Harappan period.
So without considering the labeling problem, this infographic merges/is merging with the textual tradition.
And when were the Proto-Europeans pushed out, according to Talageri?
The term Proto-Europeans is melodramatic. I believe the Bell Beaker incursions were already happening by the start of the 3rd millennium BC – archaeological attestation proves this.
If you look at the historical parallel – the Roma people left NW India by 500 AD (ballpark estimate – various legends and genetics) and reached West Asia and Europe by 1100 AD as a group. So 600 years to make the Eurasian trek. A similar journey in the Chalcolithic/Bronze Age would be higher? I cannot hazard a guess.
Talageri adheres to the 5 waves leaving in successive pulses.
https://talageri.blogspot.com/2020/07/the-full-out-of-india-case-in-short.html
The Talageri article you linked to is rather long and I’ll go through it some other time, but I did skim through the 6 very grave flaws he identifies in the AIT. Suffice to say I didn’t find them convincing because I don’t buy the notion that if something isn’t mentioned in the Rig Veda, then it could not have happened. I think of the composers of the Rig Veda as having some agenda just like the composers of the Homeric epics or the Hebrew Bible. (Plus, these “composers” were likely spread across multiple generations.)
So as a counter to, say, flaws #2 and #3, could the ancient Greek texts not be interpreted as suggesting an Out-of-Greece Theory? (Since Greek is clearly an IE language.) At the other end of the continent, ancient Japanese texts also seem to make the claim that the people were locals, when it seems clear now that the non-Ainu Japanese came from the Korean peninsula rather recently (around the time of the Mauryas.)
Anyway, if you have read Talageri’s full argument and if you have the time, I’m curious about how he explains the speakers of the original IE language (or set of dialects) being confined to a small area in the northwest part of the subcontinent for eons, and spreading to the far reaches of Europe before daring to venture east and south within India proper. Because this is what the OIT would entail, and I remember saying a long time ago that the OIT could be more accurately dubbed the Out-of-Punjab theory.
@Numinous
I think of the composers of the Rig Veda as having some agenda just like the composers of the Homeric epics or the Hebrew Bible.
Talageri’s method is exactly this – he does not hold the Rgveda in a literal frame or a sanctified position. A lot of trads have dissed him within the OIT movement.
So as a counter to, say, flaws #2 and #3, could the ancient Greek texts not be interpreted as suggesting an Out-of-Greece Theory?
The words for the three animals – the monkey, the tiger and the elephant – are the same in ALL the branches of the IE family. Greek, Germanic, Icelandic, Slavic, Iranian, Latin, Hittite. How did this happen? Which geographical region becomes a candidate for the PIE homeland?
being confined to a small area in the northwest part of the subcontinent for eons
You are greatly diminishing the extent of IVC starting from its Early to Mature phases. This is a very big area.
“The words for the three animals – the monkey, the tiger and the elephant – are the same in ALL the branches of the IE family. Greek, Germanic, Icelandic, Slavic, Iranian, Latin, Hittite. How did this happen? Which geographical region becomes a candidate for the PIE homeland?”
I am pretty sure that these names are not the same in these languages (it is easy to check). These languages were created in very different periods. So-called Slavic (i.e. Serbian) is much older than others and influenced them. I said before that original Greek (did not have this name until Aristotle and Romans) which came from Egypt/Middle East originally was NOT so-called ‘Indo-European’, it became ‘IE’ after adopting the language of indigenous people after the arrival of (future) Greek colonists to Balkan. Homer was NOT a Greek. Numinous opens good questions. Rg Veda is older than 3000BC, it seems all agree. Those who say 6000BC state that it was before a great flood which was not mentioned in Rg Veda.
Haha Milan..do you know or do not wish to know? The source for elephant and ivory throughout the IE speaking world is ibha, first attested in Rgveda. This word could have only dispersed from the homeland. Where did the Portuguese/ Spanish, Hittites, Greeks or Swedish see the elephant in the Bronze Age?
Ibha is a very ancient word, not used anymore. Today gaja/hathi is used which is also a loanword to Indonesian.
And, the homeland is…?
You probably also finished the program in the part#1? If you got the MESSAGE it means that it was successful!
Why does Russia play such a large role in the mind space of the American political and security establishment? Its economy is smaller than Canada’s, and its population is 45% of America’s now. Is it just a drag-on effect since many of the legislators/analysts are over 60 and the Soviet Union was much more significant back in their youth?
The country has a nuisance effect in the cyberworld, but outside that there’s not much they can do. The Baltics are protected by NATO, many Ukrainians now distrust Russia, outside of central Asia, the Caucasus, and Belarus, Putin doesn’t have significant influence. The Russian elite prefer western Europe and have homes and businesses there, they intermarry with them (like Putin’s daughter), and in the case of any serious crisis, the EU has enough pressure points on all the oligarchs, in terms of access to their bank transaction details and jurisdiction over landed properties, to ensure Russia’s kept in place.
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Different topic, what goes on in Pakistan’s Urdu language papers? Most of the references here are from a few English websites, the only Urdu paper I’m aware of is Jang, what about the others? What opinions do those papers hold on blasphemy, Ahmadis, women, the military, the economy, Imran Khan, India, the west, etc.? Questions also applicable for the Punjabi, Sindhi, Pathan, and Baloch language papers.
In the 1990s, the American establishment viewed the remnants of the Soviet state with pity and had several co-operative projects rolling. So the current American antipathy to Russia is not rooted in the Cold War outlook.
It’s Putin. He has restored Russian economy to a state of natural stability, invoked it’s Tsarist past and has bridged the gulf with the Eastern Orthodox Church. The Soviet state chose to cut its moorings from all these three piers and made enemies with its own past and future.
Now a healed Russia brings back to memory, the Russian empire, predecessor of the Soviet Union. This colossus had deep military campaigns targeting Japan, Poland and Sweden – the mark of a true continental power.
And there is a new Soviet Union to the West….the EU!! This is on every imaginable economic and administrative metric……an attempt by European elites to recreate a vast welfarist state like the Soviets. And horror of horrors, this union does not have a common Army.
So the new fox waits patiently at the door of the chicken coop while the farmer frets from across an ocean.
Russia vs the Biden Administration
https://www.unz.com/tsaker/russia-vs-the-biden-administration/
A fantastic expose of Putin by his nemesis Navalny – brilliant, slick, fast-paced. professional
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipAnwilMncI
It is unbelievable how pundits have no the slightest idea about the root-cause of US russia-phobia.
It is unbelievable how pundits have no the slightest idea about the root-cause of US russia-phobia.”
would like to know your take on this. (please be short though 🙂 )
my own guess is that it is tribal and primeval. (slavs vs germanics).
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XsRGuVtkf4Y
Good video
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.jagranjosh.com/general-knowledge/amp/all-about-pakistans-shaheen-iii-missile-1611309265-1
https://academictimes.com/critics-say-green-policies-stifle-growth-the-opposite-may-be-true/
Critics say green policies stifle growth. The opposite may be true.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.businesstoday.in/lite/story/80-percent-back-govts-handling-of-farmers-protest-finds-motn-poll/1/428842.html
Once again. This is a mostly middle-upper income protest of jat sikh rent seekers.
Really sad , elitisit Paki women showing their english complex and insulting employee, good thing is that it made a lot of uproar on social media.
https://twitter.com/etribune/status/1351984263147696132
This shit happens all over S Asia. Dumb as hell mentally colonized behavior. Good she was exposed. Somehow “english skills” became a marker of both intellect and class rather than just the latter, something that’s an issue in and of itself regardless.
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/pakistans-export-growth-tops-india-bangladesh-leader/2102100
Good job in recovery, especially textiles.
https://swarajyamag.com/politics/punjabi-songs-in-support-of-farmers-reek-of-jatt-supermacism-pro-khalistan-and-bhindranwale-imagery-class-contempt-anti-hindu-rhetoric
Funny how they claim to be BLM supporting egalitarian leftists in the West. As usual, all is fair in love and war
https://twitter.com/viditaatrey/status/1352889052643483648
Vidit Atrey, CEO of Meeso – one of India’s largest social commerce platform.
“At a Meesho community event in Varanasi, an entrepreneur once told me that she hides her online business from her family because her father-in-law once told her “Humare itne bure din nahi aaye ki ghar ki bahu ko kaam karna pade”.
A long way to go for India!”
Translation of the last line-
“We have not fallen on such hard times that the house’s daughter-in-law needs to work”
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Deep seated cultural issues. Not sure if or when this will change.
Yup. India has pathetic labor force participation rates among women. China’s cultural revolution did more harm than good, but it did get more women into the labor force.
Tulsi Gabbard on Joe Rogan, new episode
https://podtail.com/podcast/the-joe-rogan-experience/-1599-tulsi-gabbard/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/theprint.in/pageturner/excerpt/what-made-hindu-and-muslim-women-take-up-prostitution-the-british-really-wanted-to-know/581922/%3famp
Speculation galore
“Sanskrit Epics Animated in Stone: Ornately-carved pillars and friezes from a 16th-century South Indian temple bring the stories of the Ramayana and Mahabharata to life.” By Lee Lawrence on Jan. 22, 2021 at https://www.wsj.com/articles/sanskrit-epics-animated-in-stone-11611346248
But while the configuration in the museum follows basic conventions for mandapas, it does not replicate a structure that once existed. It can’t. Its 60-plus blocks of carved granite were lying in a pile of rubble when Adeline Pepper Gibson, Philadelphia heiress and lover of art, purchased them from a trustee of the Madana Gopala Swamy Temple in Madurai in 1912. …
an artistic genre that flowered in Madurai from the late 16th to the 18th century. Anyone interested in finding out more about its genesis and development will enjoy “Sculpting Devotion in South India,” a talk Mr. Branfoot gave in 2019—accessible on the museum’s YouTube channel —and photographs of Madurai’s Meenakshi temple on Mere Pix Media’s website that illustrate a later stage with horses rearing, gods dancing, and characters interacting in full-blown vignettes.
https://philamuseum.org/calendar/exhibition/collection-highlight-temple-hall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilqjZ0XsC2E
https://www.merepix.com/2013/10/meenakshi-amman-temple-madurai-tamil-nadu-india-rare-old-photos.html
BJP is such a petty party. If LaluJi would die, of corona or any other ailments, they aren’t going to get Yadav votes in UP or Bihar ever (which mind you was shifting towards BJP – at least the urban voter was).
I don’t know what they are going to get by prosecuting him, scams 10 times the magnitude happened in Bellari (Karnataka) but everyone is scot-free over there. They barely managed to get through this time in Bihar, if Nitish-Tejaswi come together, they can say good bye to Bihar forever.
Very funny
https://youtu.be/dpYdapZUU1c
https://www.indiatoday.in/amp/india/story/china-breaks-september-pact-quietly-consolidates-troop-positions-in-eastern-ladakh-1762211-2021-01-24
China breaks September pact, quietly makes troop positions stronger in eastern Ladakh
this comment was prompted by a brief discussion on animism in the other post of razib. i thought about posting it in the open thread because i am interested in knowing the opinions and experience of other readers.
i get an impression that western writers make too much of big deal between the differences between brahminical hinduism and animistic hinduism. to me this appears somewhat misleading because i have not noticed such a sharp distinction between these two streams in my lived experience.
religious practices of hindus form a gradient. there is streak of animism in all upper castes, including brahmins, and there is some brahminism in all lower castes, including dalits.
kul devtas (family deities) of many brahmin clans of rajasthan, uttarakhand, UP etc are obviously tribal in origin, whom they share with surrounding peasant castes. for example one brahmin clan of rajasthan that i am quite familiar with, worships gogaji https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gogaji – an incarnation of nag devta (serpent god) – as their family deity, and revers him much more than classical gods like rama or krishna.
many religious practices of my grandfathers generation, though quite harmless and charming, will be laughed off as superstition in moderm times, i still remember when i came down with some fever in childhood at my grandfather’s house, along with a doctors visit, i am was also “treated” by a village bhopa (shaman) who circled a broom over my head chanting mysterious words.
religious practices of rural brahmins, especially land ownings brahmins like bhumihars are really indistinguishable from other agricultural castes living around them. may be folk hinduism and brahminical hinduism were separate religious streams in the past, but centuries of coexistence has led to seepage of practices between them and made them a continuum.
i would like to know what is the experience of readers from other parts of india. i am not that familiar with South, but i am sure its the same there.
Even my Guju vania paternal family has a kul devi.
It’s my H Y DNA. Dem jungle vibes
i get an impression that western writers make too much of big deal between the differences between brahminical hinduism and animistic hinduism. to me this appears somewhat misleading because i have not noticed such a sharp distinction between these two streams in my lived experience.
the elite abrahamic tradition makes a fake dichotomy. it’s not there. the same spectrum exists in abrahamic religions when you use psychology, ethnography, and anthropology, to see what ppl really believe.
the problem tho is it’s a axomatic point of belief in abrahmic religious that they’re philosophically dualist and that god is distinct from his creation, and that he is singular and above and beyond. this is something they all agree to on paper, but most ppl don’t internalize it in any way. so the ‘lived exp’ of sufi muslims etc. and hindus is much closer.
the abrahamic framework got bolted onto fields such as ‘religious studies’, but really it’s just a nerd system that has minor real-world relevance
“i get an impression that western writers make too much of big deal between the differences between brahminical hinduism and animistic hinduism.”
Wasn’t aware that such a dichotomy exists. I have seen some folks make the argument that the animistic traditions of North-East or Central Indian tribals must not be considered Hinduism. I can probably concede that to an extent.
But don’t think non-Brahmin Tamil Hindus will take very kindly to being called ‘animistic’.
Re: personal experience
I am mostly a deracinated urban Hindu but I am aware that we have a kula devi (clan deity) and a graam devi (village deity).
I have only ever visited my ancestral village once in my life but we still do invoke their names while doing caste specific rituals as well as during havans.
/may be folk hinduism and brahminical hinduism were separate religious streams in the past, but centuries of coexistence has led to seepage of practices between them and made them a continuum/
This is how I imagine things as well
Very likely. Aryans came with some mythology, the other mythology was already there and probably, over time, it came to the synergy. As soon as we finish linguistics this will be our next discussion topic.
> i get an impression that western writers make too much of big deal between the differences between brahminical hinduism and animistic hinduism. to me this appears somewhat misleading because i have not noticed such a sharp distinction between these two streams in my lived experience.
Every village (in Eastern UP) has a बुढऊ बाबा, ढीह बाबा, काली माई क थान (i.e. lots of local deities who we offer हलवा-पूड़ी during a big function like marriage, child-birth, mundan etc. etc.). At the same time we do a रामचरितमानस पाठ at home and call a pundit for yagya (mostly सत्यनारायण पूजा). No sharp distinction at all between the two streams.
\ i am not that familiar with South,\
South ditto. Generally Hindus regardless of caste have a kula devata, who are caste blind. Actually many of them are goddesses. Late M.G.R used to regularly visit Mookambika in Kerala and popularized it.
One more thing. Even temple worship , perhaps only a minority 10% have brahmin priests which explicitely follow Agamic prescriptions and many of them are historically important. In terms of numbers majority of btemples have non-brhamin priests to which brahmins also go.
“Really existing Hindusim” is a far cry from the imaginings of western commentators
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bloomberg.com/amp/opinion/articles/2021-01-24/biden-faces-tough-confrontations-with-trump-allies-in-india-and-u-k
Here we go again…
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NLbnKI7hT74
Lmfao they war in the comments is amazing. So many khalistanis. It is beautiful.
Bhindarwale Bhurji is best served warm with a side of donkey milk lassi
https://mobile.twitter.com/ani/status/1353286317614845955?s=21
Pappu has papadam for brains
“Apparently in 5000 years there has been no corruption in Vedas, Ramayana, Mahabharata, etc but bhaiya knows better here.
Only problem we have is that our Scriptures are translated by Foreigners who mis-translate it to show us as Savages. Take Manusmriti and compare it with original Sanskrit/Hindi translation by Swamis and you’ll understand what happen.
We have given foreigners/West right to create history of India & Hinduism and they’ve done spectacular work in turning us into Punching Bag with the help of Thapars, Habibs, Dravidian & Commies etc. Do you know what China does? It straight up rejects every translation done by Westerners which goes against them & uses Diplomatic channels to oust them from university. Only a Chinese National who is well versed in Chinese can research on China & its history. Same is done by French i.e they reject everything not French.
What does India do? They fund Atrocity Literature in foreign Universities. They give access to Westerners to translate our scriptures. Full access.
There are millions of documents lying in Government controlled Temples which are rotting away. Pujaris can’t do anything as if they try they’ll have to face corruption/theft charges. This is the state of India.”
Interdasting
Razib,
You are not going to like this theory of David Anthony’s: https://www.academia.edu/44892216/Anthony_2021_Migration_nomads_from_the_east_IEMA_SUNY_Buffalo (according to
https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2021/01/david-anthony-on-y-haplogroup-r1a.html)
He thinks the Sky Lords were a Yamnaya underclass!
oh no, that’s better. it’s the most AWESOME story of perseverance in the face of dark dasyu malfeasance and oppression!
we shall conquer all!
Sooner or later, the artificial facts crash into realities. Some persistently were pushing that Yamnaya people (mainstream or reflux) were Aryans although they were R1b and R1a respectively almost without overlapping. Because the ‘experts’ must invent newer and newer constructions such as this mentioned in the article. I don’t know why these guys are so afraid to even mention ‘Old Europe’, which is missing from all equations. How come that ‘Slavics’ were I2a+R1a, although R1b were between them and outnumbered R1a (Davidski says) 10:1? Maybe we will know more as soon as Ugra comes back with elephants i.e. Aryans hidden homeland and, after that, Razib will be able to add his fifth arrow.
Btw, amongst comments there was an interesting citation of Herodotus (we may need it for our future discussion) which confirms what I mentioned several times that Serbian speaking people were indigenous in today’s Greece.
Herodotus:
“…He (Croesus) found by inquiry that the chief peoples were the Lacedaemonians among those of Doric, and the Athenians among those of Ionic stock. These races, Ionian and Dorian, were the foremost in ancient time, the first a Pelasgian and the second a Hellenic people. The Pelasgian race has never yet left its home;…
…It is a fact that at that time the Luwians lived there, the Illyrians probably lived nearby, the Hellins were not there. Most of the Athenians&Ionians were of Pelasgic origin….”
So far neither Yamnaya Kurgans nor Yamnaya non-Kurgan burials have yielded R1a. I think it expanded from elsewhere. Sure, from a Yamnaya-like population autosomally, but geographically elsewhere.
Maybe we should follow the elephants and find this secret place? It is amazing that R1b and R1a, although almost did not have contacts, had a common ‘Indo-European’ language. First of them took it to Europe and spread rapidly in its every corner, the others took it to SAsia spreading their knowledge in verses. Only, I wonder where Magyars (future Hungarians) were hiding and avoiding any contacts with IE language?
https://www.quora.com/Why-do-some-Iranians-look-like-Pakistanis-and-Indians/answers/165625404?ch=10&share=742039a0&srid=u6vS8
Just lol
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3541477/
Diet needs to be held more constant
https://www.nature.com/articles/ejcn201792
Message is clear. Browns you gotta strength train and fix the diet!
1. Progressive overload at big compounds. Find a good strength program and coach
2. Eat 1.6g/kg of protein a day
3. Stop eating refined carbs
4. Eat monounsaturated fat for your fat
5. Track calories, at least at first to see what you want to do to lose/gain/stay the same weight
6. Sleep enough and go to your doctor regularly
“The UK’s South Asian population, the largest minority ethnic group at 4% of the total population,1 are known to have an elevated risk of coronary artery disease—hence research on ethnic differences in disease has concentrated on this area.2 In contrast, South Asians have a lower incidence of cancer than the general population, with standardised incidence ratios (SIRs) of all malignant neoplasms reported as 68% lower in males and 48% lower in females,3 whilst standardised mortality ratios for all cancers have been reported between 58 in Indian men at their best to 85 at their worst in Bangladeshi men.4”
We get less cancer but more heart disease. I’d rather have more of the latter. Mortality and morbidity improving interventions are better understood in the latter.
Also take meds if you need them! 70% of blood cholesterol is genetic. Diet can only save you ap much. To find out if you meed statins, go to the doctor and figure it out.
Also, Type II diabetes is quite genetic, even mroe so than type I diabetes, according to twin-twin concordance studies. Get your A1c and fasting sugars tested, especially as you age!
Results The life expectancy of White Scottish males at birth was 74.7 years (95% CI 74.6 to 74.8), similar to Mixed Background (73.0; 70.2 to 75.8) and White Irish (75.0; 74.0 to 75.9), but shorter than Indian (80.9; 78.4 to 83.4), Pakistani (79.3; 76.9 to 81.6), Chinese (79.0; 76.5 to 81.5), Other White British (78.9; 78.6 to 79.2) and Other White (77.2; 76.4 to 78.1). The life expectancy of White Scottish females was 79.4 years (79.3 to 79.5), similar to mixed background (79.3; 76.6 to 82.0), but shorter than Pakistani (84.6; 82.0 to 87.3), Chinese (83.4; 81.1 to 85.7), Indian (83.3; 80.7 to 85.9), Other White British (82.6; 82.3 to 82.9), other White (82.0; 81.3 to 82.8) and White Irish (81; 80.2 to 81.8).
We live longer too. We just die differently…
https://jech.bmj.com/content/70/12/1251
Is that much protein even necessary. I have only ever lifted when I was 15.5 years old for just under half a year. I went from 135 lbs on day 1 to 180 lbs in about 5 months with maybe 80 grams on a good day.
Literature shows it is optimal on average. Individuals vary.
https://mennohenselmans.com/the-myth-of-1glb-optimal-protein-intake-for-bodybuilders/
Citations in here for the 1.6g rule. Anecdotally, it matters less when you are in a caloric surplus than at maintenance, especially a heavy surplus.
Key is to get stronger at big lifts.
Also do your cardio. Cardio is important for heart health. It improves nitrous oxide levels and collaterals in body to allow load on heart to decrease. 30 min moderate intensity at least 5 days a week. Less if high intensity. Though more injury risk, interference with weight training, and conditioning needed for high intensity.
I went from 135 lbs on day 1 to 180 lbs in about 5 months with maybe 80 grams on a good day.
45 lbs in 5 months is probably mostly fat, even factoring in newbie gains
but you are right.
i don’t think you need that much protein its just ‘optimal’ but all kinds of stuff like consistency / progressive overload / rest / total caloric surplus or deficit are much more important
I was talking about my bench press numbers. My overall weight was in the high 60s kg to 70 kg throughout the period.
final edits on my part 2 for substack
newsletter within the next 6 hours. probably next 3
4,000 words. so shorter
Scientific American carries an article saying that the farm protests in India, are the end of the “Green Revolution”
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/farm-protests-in-india-are-writing-the-green-revolutions-obituary/
My impression of the farm protests was that they are mostly from anti-BJP Punjab rather than national; my impression of the Green Revolution was that it was about avoiding famine.
But this author says the Green Revolution was a State Department plot to prevent red revolution, and that the farm protests are about overcoming its negative legacy.
He also says that Punjab is India’s breadbasket; if true that would perhaps justify the central role of Punjab in national protests. But I don’t know how true it is.
I also note that the author is an anthropologist who teaches environmental studies.
I would be interested in any informed commentary, both on what the author says, and on how his point of view may have ended up in Scientific American.
> He also says that Punjab is India’s breadbasket; if true that would perhaps justify the central role of Punjab in national protests. But I don’t know how true it is.
Not true, even if we were to remove the output from Punjab, India will still do OK. States like Rajasthan, MP have grown leaps and bounds in increasing their agricultural productivity. The best wheat is grown in MP and not Punjab. Andhra/Orissa/W.Bengal produce more and better rice.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/farm-protests-in-india-are-writing-the-green-revolutions-obituary
So many fallacies in here. I just cant’t…lol
Modi stay strong. The universe gave you a secons chance with the farmers’ idiotic rejection if your postponement. Implement it. A good majority of India and its farmers are with you.
https://www.opindia.com/2019/10/gurmehar-kaur-supports-jagmeet-singh-canada-politician-khalistani/amp/
Few disgust me more than these types. India is a cucked nation for the number who defend her views as anything but an embarassment
https://thenationalpulse.com/news/biden-revokes-trump-energy-eo/
Scary stuff
part 2 is out https://razib.substack.com/p/stark-truth-about-humans-a-story?r=u0rd&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email&utm_source=twitter
https://twitter.com/FriedrichPieter/status/1353459159841320961
Razib is getting famous in woke circles.
Lol. That guy spammed Razib’s Twitter basically begging for a response. Now he’s pretending as if he’s being hounded.
But got to admire his hustle. He trolled low-IQ RW folks and got gullible wokes to monetize his Patreon in less than six months.
Indian society is uniquely susceptible to psyops.
About the Comment system of Brown Pundits. The last post from August had some suggestions, https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/08/05/a-better-commenting-system/
There are few more worth considering in case Razib hasn’t decided yet.
https://commento.io/ (supports markdown, moderator stick comments, downvotes and collapsible nested comments for easier following of threaded conversations).
https://www.talkyard.io/
A blog article about this with a few more commenting systems listed as alternatives as well. https://nehalist.io/no-more-disqus-hello-commento/
This needs to happen. Adding links, quoting people or specific instances, stressing tone and following nested comments gets needlessly cumbersome with this current comment system. It has gone beyond saturation point since scale of the traffic was too high. The current comment system is hot garbage really.
https://youtu.be/Ix9LNZIbTpc
Video about India’s solar canals
I find it hilarious how over the span of a few decades the Left went from an ideology for the Working Class to an Upper Middle Class Liberal Echo-Chamber that virtue signals about minorities&women. Meanwhile, the Right went from being an obscure Savarna Circlejerk to an ideology that appeals to the low-caste masses. Its like poetry, it rhymes!
BB Lal, the grand doyen of Indian archaeology has been awarded the Padma Vibhushan, India’s second highest civilian honour. He is now a nonagenarion. He retired from the ASI in 1972 as Director-General.
When BB Lal was younger, he identified the PGW culture with that of the “invading Aryans”. Later on he switched his views after realising the confluences from archaeology, hydrology and textual tradition. He has since then identified the Rigvedic people with the Indus Valley civilization.
https://www.amazon.com/Rigvedic-People-Invaders-Immigrants-Indigenous/dp/8173055351
BB Lal’s legacy is a profound challenge to AIT/AMT view within the Indian historical tradition shaped by colonial inheritances. His body of work, driven by empirical evidence has greatly shaped the counter view of Indigenous Aryans. Some of his consistently held views have been validated by newer archaeological sites.
https://twitter.com/UNCTAD/status/1353630118988689408
China and India were two major outliers in a gloomy year for foreign direct investment.
The two nations recorded positive #FDI growth in 2020 even as global levels sunk to lows not seen since the 1990s
Not an economics expert, but does this have something to do with GST forcing companies to manufacture here?
https://twitter.com/UNCTAD/status/1353630118988689408
China and India were two major outliers in a gloomy year for foreign direct investment.
The two nations recorded positive #FDI growth in 2020 even as global levels sunk to lows not seen since the 1990s
Good to hear.
Not an economics expert, but does this have something to do with GST?
Ongoing Islamic insurgency in three major parts of Africa has thrown millions of people into misery , killed thosands, made millions refugees , and set back developement of black Africa by many decades. they are
In southern Africa , Islamic State of Mozambique also known as Al-shabab
https://www.lawfareblog.com/islamic-state-mozambique
In East Africa Al-shabab which ahs destabilised countriees such as Somalia, Uganda, Kenya
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Shabaab_(militant_group)
In West Africa, Islamic State in West Africa , Jamā’at Ahl as-Sunnah lid-Da’wah wa’l-Jihād aka Boko Haram
Surprising that there is Al-Shabab in Mozambique but not in Tanzania.
Same name Al-shabab in both regions, but they are different organizations/movements
https://www.opindia.com/2021/01/rahul-gandhi-great-grandfather-nehru-india-does-not-need-an-army/
Such a misguided socialist poor excuse of an executive. Horrible leader.
https://www.arabnews.com/node/1798186/world
Lmfao. Keep dreaming
To those who live and work in India, is this still how most Indian ‘bosses’ behave ? I am beginning to understand why my parents were so insistent that I leave India despite my optimism about the place …..
https://sports.ndtv.com/australia-vs-india-2020-21/aus-vs-ind-idea-to-promote-rishabh-pant-up-the-order-came-from-virat-kohli-says-vikram-rathour-2357992
If you had not left India, you would have become a batting coach like Rathour? Your parents don’t like Virat Kohli? Indian bosses are like Rishabh Pant? So many variables and so little relational data….:-)
Good one, Ugra.
Vikram – I think you are alluding to the fact that Rathore (had to) gave credit to Virat for the Rishabh Pant batting order change?
BTW – I always thought you were based in India (along with Prats and just one or two others)
No, had thought hard about returning to India after school. My parents were vehemently against it. Yes, the OP is about Kohli’s insecurity and this being a public example of why Indian manager’s are not highly thought of. See here: https://www.hofstede-insights.com/country-comparison/india,the-uk/
Manufacturing/service/retail management is different from sports management. Thats why you have separate courses even at the undergrad level like sports psychology, management, athlete nutrition etc. Like it or not, Kohli is Indian cricket’s biggest batting asset now and Rathour is probably managing that asset as best as he can.
Atheletes and sportsmen are encouraged to develop their egos in subtle ways – it directly helps their performance and sustaining it. In team games, managing this is part of a coach’s job. The Hofstede model is for people working in cubicles not for the sports field.
My parents were vehemently against it.
Hmm…..in my case, my parents made suggestive noises about me moving back to India, which was a (but only one) factor in my decision to do so. I thought the impetus to push kids to go (and remain) overseas had steadily decreased since the turn of the century, but I could be wrong.
What most Indian parents (at least of my parents’ generation) wanted was for kids to have a high-status and high-paying job but be very Indian in all other respects (arranged marriage, continue traditions, etc.) Since they were used to the dysfunctional aspects of Indian society and infrastructure, they didn’t really care about stuff like broken roads, abysmal traffic, pollution, bad electricity, etc. (and the bossy office culture you are talking about), and were cool with having lots of cheap domestic help to avoid annoying chores. And all of this was possible only after the IT boom and liberalization of the 90s and early 2000s.
Numinous, that is an interesting take. For my parents, the push to go abroad was never about material advancement. My dad, unfortunately, had his PhD fellowship at UNC cancelled due to US sanctions after the emergency. Despite doing well materially in Mumbai, he could never get over what he thought he could have become intellectually in the US.
When I got equipped for academic jobs in the US, I realized that US academia was not what I wanted to do at this stage of my life. My sister, who was an academic star in school, lives a mundane suburban life in a small Midwest town, where she works as a back end system programmer. Neither of us did particularly well despite coming here. OTOH, our spouses, whose parents were aghast at their decision to live abroad, are doing brilliantly here.
I think office culture varies depending on who runs the company (or department). Even after returning to India (I got a PhD in the States and worked in the tech industry there a few years), I have been working at a place that’s staffed (and run) by people who studied/worked abroad, so the culture feels quite “American”. For example, we address each other by our first names; i.e., even the new hire calls the director by his/her first name.
At the same time, I see other departments even in the MNC I work for, and employees call even their immediate bosses “Sir”, often don’t look them in the eye and consider pleasing their bosses the be-all and end-all of their jobs. In Indian (i.e., no MNC ties) companies, the hierarchy definitely predominates and boss is always right.
“I think office culture varies depending on who runs the company (or department).“
This is true but I have seen a gradual trend towards more egalitarian practices.
I went to a college that was pretty American-influenced due to historic ties. Everyone called each other by their first names.
My first job was at a startup where the CEO had studied in UK/US. So the culture was similar. But I found folks from some other colleges initially finding it difficult to adjust to it – calling seniors ‘sir’ or ‘bhaiyya’.
The HR had to hammer it out.
I’ve seen this has become less of an issue among freshers in the years since.
On the other hand, when I went for meetings with folks in banks/insurance companies, the sense of hierarchy was pretty evident. A few times, I addressed some very senior folks by their first names and could see the discomfort among their underlings. Had to change that approach for better sales results. A few ‘sirs’ grease the wheels to your deals.
That said, senior folks at established companies also try to be more collegial these days and insist they be addressed by their first names.
Thanks Prats and Numinous, this is what I had surmised and hoped for. It is good to get anecdotal confirmation. In time, someone will do a more extensive study to point out the differences between traditional and more modern Indian firms, and the diffusion of practices between them.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bloomberg.com/amp/opinion/articles/2021-01-26/india-s-modi-should-stand-firm-against-protesting-farmers
I agree. The government has conceded too mucb already. The urban Sharma author should talk some sense into his rural Sidhu neighbors ;).
[48] Domestic Violence NFHS-3, Government of India, pp. 498–500, Table 15.1
In 2005–2006 nationwide family and health survey report, the lowest domestic violence prevalence rate was reported by women of Jainism religion (12.6% of women), the highest by women of Buddhist religion (40.9%).[48] The same report also states that the frequency and intensity of domestic violence experienced was lowest among Jain women who had ever been victims of such violence, while the frequency and intensity of domestic violence was highest among Muslim women who had been victims.[48]
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