Happy Rama Navami!

A Hindu friend clued me into the fact that this was Lord Rama’s birthday. Since I’m not Hindu or from a Hindu background I had no clue (to be fair, Google calendar is how I know when Ramadan starts). I don’t know much about Rama as I have not read the Ramayana (after all these years I’m only 2/3rd of the way through an English translation of the Mahabharata), but, I’m pretty sure I know which Y haplogroup he was, so much respect!

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Scorpion Eater
Scorpion Eater
2 years ago


“I’m pretty sure I know which Y haplogroup he was”

out of shear curiosity, i got interested in the genealogy of rama, did some googling, and found the wikipedia page on Ikshwaku, the earliest known ancestor of rama. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikshvaku
just as i suspected, pesky western scholars have already suggested dravidian and munda origins for him.

Saurav
Saurav
2 years ago
Reply to  Scorpion Eater

Considering the politics of today, i doubt any scholar would remotely attach ‘Dravidian and munda origins’ for Ram.

They might attach ‘invading genocidal Aryan’ to him though.

GauravL
GauravL
2 years ago

The Ishhvakus may have been earlier Indo Aryan migrants – earlier than the Rigvedic Aryans – As the Vedas are mainly compositions patronized by the Rigvedic – Puru Bharata – later Kuru rulers, its assumed by many that the eastern Ishvakus were outside the Kuru-Pancala orthodoxy – though clearly Aryan.

I would speculate that MB giving a peek itihasa of the Kuru-Pancala and RM being the itihasa of eastern Ishvakus of the Kosala- (Magadh?) region. Also interesting to note that the Jainas seem to have some important links to Ishvakus – 22/23 of the 24 Tirthankars were Ishvakus including Mahavir (who do not get that much coverage in the Vedic Canon).

Ritesh
Ritesh
2 years ago
Reply to  GauravL

There is one hypothesis about this which is by Edgar Caycee or CW Leadbeater who are so called faith healers/ They said Ram entered India from Atlantian civilization which was dying and the references of flying chariot etc are all the technologies present in atlantic civilization.

Ugra
Ugra
2 years ago
Reply to  GauravL

Good hunch! This is also a major supposition by some scholars. At least in some parts of the Puranas, Ikshvakus are considered anarya who later accepted Vedic rites.

Ritesh
Ritesh
2 years ago

2/3rd is pretty good progress as its huge text. which translation you using ?

Mohan Nair
Mohan Nair
2 years ago

He was famously dark skinned.

Jaydeepsinh Rathod
2 years ago

Happy Ram Navami Razib and to all our friends on the blog !

I would be interested to know how has your experience been reading the great text (the Mahabharata).

Brown Pundits